The Deadpool & Wolverine vibe has faded, can Avengers: Doomsday change ANYTHING?

[CiderHype]

You won't catch me holding my breath for a fresh energy in the MCU, I'm with the crowd that sees Deadpool & Wolverine as a unique scenario that the rest of the MCU can't match. She-Hulk, the disaster of Echo and now the absolute faceplant called Ironheart, doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

What do you think? Will Robert Doomey Jr. running around in the MCU fix everything? Maybe a few Burger King burgers for good measure?

 

[PixelNomad42]

Haha, yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine are untouchable. She-Hulk, Echo, Ironheart… yikes. RDJ running around might help, though.

 

[ChrisSawin]

I’ve been burnt out on superhero stuff in general since Endgame, really. Loved Guardians 3, but even the enjoyable titles since then are kind of forgettable in the long run.

 

[Julian Santos-Febus]

Honestly I’m not sure. After Endgame many people did check out but some people like myself, decided to test the waters a bit and see what would happen next. Deadpool and Wolverine was a fun movie but it still feels like it’s missing something, what that something is I’m not sure. Doomsday seems to overcrowded for my taste, looks like something a young fanfic writer would conjure up. I really am interested though in seeing how the Russo Brothers allow each character to shine and have a role to play as that’s what I believe Infinity War and Endgame (to a certain degree) did so well. The thing I feel like most people don’t really talk about Infinity War enough about is that it actually felt like its own film. I actually could argue that you could watch it without having seen a majority of the prior MCU films, something modern MCU doesn’t apply to their latest projects.

 

[PixelNomad42]

Honestly I’m not sure. After Endgame many people did check out but some people like myself, decided to test the waters a bit and see what would happen next. Deadpool and Wolverine was a fun movie but it still feels like it’s missing something, what that something is I’m not sure. Doomsday seems to overcrowded for my taste, looks like something a young fanfic writer would conjure up. I really am interested though in seeing how the Russo Brothers allow each character to shine and have a role to play as that’s what I believe Infinity War and Endgame (to a certain degree) did so well. The thing I feel like most people don’t really talk about Infinity War enough about is that it actually felt like its own film. I actually could argue that you could watch it without having seen a majority of the prior MCU films, something modern MCU doesn’t apply to their latest projects.

Exactly, that’s a big part of it. Up through Infinity War and Endgame, the MCU felt really cohesive, every movie and character had a clear place in the bigger story. Now it kind of feels like they’re scrambling a bit, trying to find a direction while juggling too many new characters and concepts at once. It’ll be interesting to see if the Russos can bring some of that cohesion back.

 

[Julian Santos-Febus]

Exactly, that’s a big part of it. Up through Infinity War and Endgame, the MCU felt really cohesive, every movie and character had a clear place in the bigger story. Now it kind of feels like they’re scrambling a bit, trying to find a direction while juggling too many new characters and concepts at once. It’ll be interesting to see if the Russos can bring some of that cohesion back.

I’m hoping they do but the next question is, will that cohesion be enough to bring back the fans they lost and attacked AND will that cohesion move over to the “rebooted” universe after Secret Wars.

 

[mike smith]

Honestly I’m not sure. After Endgame many people did check out but some people like myself, decided to test the waters a bit and see what would happen next. Deadpool and Wolverine was a fun movie but it still feels like it’s missing something, what that something is I’m not sure. Doomsday seems to overcrowded for my taste, looks like something a young fanfic writer would conjure up. I really am interested though in seeing how the Russo Brothers allow each character to shine and have a role to play as that’s what I believe Infinity War and Endgame (to a certain degree) did so well. The thing I feel like most people don’t really talk about Infinity War enough about is that it actually felt like its own film. I actually could argue that you could watch it without having seen a majority of the prior MCU films, something modern MCU doesn’t apply to their latest projects.

The only good thing Marvel ever did, was the second half of Ant man 3, when Jonathan Majors made his appearance. No other marvel movie has made such an impact, during its entire history. RDj spent time in jail, yet he is still in Marvel movies. Majors served no time in. jail, yet Disney abandoned him. Jonathan Majors had to be destroyed. His talent was too great for Disney. Same way that Brice lee was destroyed. We are not allowed to experience greatness whatsoever.

 

[Julian Santos-Febus]

The only good thing Marvel ever did, was the second half of Ant man 3, when Jonathan Majors made his appearance. No other marvel movie has made such an impact, during its entire history. RDj spent time in jail, yet he is still in Marvel movies. Majors served no time in. jail, yet Disney abandoned him. Jonathan Majors had to be destroyed. His talent was too great for Disney. Same way that Brice lee was destroyed. We are not allowed to experience greatness whatsoever.

I personally wasn’t a big fan of how he played Kang but I do think he was the best part of the film and I agree, I think that they jumped the gun to fast with him but they’re dead set on doom now and they haven’t even laid out the foundation for him. Disney doesn’t want us to experience greatness because they themselves can’t even write it anymore.

 

[Spencer Baculi (BIC EIC)]

This just reminds me that they're gonna do a 'soft reboot' after Secret Wars - and even then, I really don't think that'll get people back in.

 

[ChrisSawin]

Coming back around to this I think they could ignite interest in the MCU again if they went mostly or totally cosmic. Lean heavy on the dark and monstrous characters and take us to space and other dimensions. Open that door for the really weird characters to enter the fray. Make Earth and the characters we’ve spent so much time with a spectacle that we only come back around to every few films or every major event.

Ghost Rider. Annihilus. A version of Dormammu that isn’t dumb. Man-Thing returning. Howard the Duck. Beyonder. I’ve wanted Warlock (from The New Mutants) in a film for ages. Doomsday and Secret Wars are opportunities to trim the fat and give us some fresh blood that isn’t just newly casted X-Men characters.

 

[Spencer Baculi (BIC EIC)]

Coming back around to this I think they could ignite interest in the MCU again if they went mostly or totally cosmic. Lean heavy on the dark and monstrous characters and take us to space and other dimensions. Open that door for the really weird characters to enter the fray. Make Earth and the characters we’ve spent so much time with a spectacle that we only come back around to every few films or every major event.

Ghost Rider. Annihilus. A version of Dormammu that isn’t dumb. Man-Thing returning. Howard the Duck. Beyonder. I’ve wanted Warlock (from The New Mutants) in a film for ages. Doomsday and Secret Wars are opportunities to trim the fat and give us some fresh blood that isn’t just newly casted X-Men characters.

Speaking of New Mutants, given what you wrote - which I agree with, let's take a break from main Marvel and experiment. Where's N O V A? - you're probably gonna be just as mad as I was at this quote from the film's director, Josh Boone:

The characters we chose were always the characters – we had plans, obviously, to bring in new characters in the next movie – the character of Warlock was featured in all the early drafts of the script, but it was so expensive that we weren’t able to do it. Basically, cutting him out of the narrative allowed us to make the film. So our plan was always to have Warlock come back in the next one and try to tell his story then.

“They were all supposed to be kind of separate horror genre films: the first one’s like a rubber reality horror movie, the second one was supposed to be an alien invasion movie with Warlock, and then the third one was going to take all these elements from the X-Men crossover from the late ’80s and early ’90s called Inferno to be a kind of supernatural, apocalyptic horror movie. That was the plan.”

 

[ChrisSawin]

Speaking of New Mutants, given what you wrote - which I agree with, let's take a break from main Marvel and experiment. Where's N O V A? - you're probably gonna be just as mad as I was at this quote from the film's director, Josh Boone:

We could have had Inferno?! The idea alone is more promising than anything on the potential MCU horizon.

A New Mutants film that is more comic book accurate would be really cool. Tons of potential actual X-Force building there. Cypher could legitimately be the heart of the film and essentially die with a purpose.

Sidebar, it’s strange that there isn’t a live-action Morph yet, too.